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		<title>By: Newsletter 99 &#124; Transition South Lantau</title>
		<link>http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/#comment-961</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Health - working towards a healthcare system that is truly sustainable: http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/ and this looks at the effect of fluoride upon IQ. Thanks to Fabian: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Health - working towards a healthcare system that is truly sustainable: <a href="http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/" rel="nofollow">http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/</a> and this looks at the effect of fluoride upon IQ. Thanks to Fabian: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Adams</title>
		<link>http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An important way I&#039;ve heard this dog distinguished is between health and healthcare.  What we&#039;re going for is generating health, creating vitality.  It&#039;s about more than disease because it is heavily tied in with factors like social equity that are not disease per se but do actively and heavily impact health and well-being.  

Regarding the comment about timescale, I think we know the existing system will self-destruct within a matter of decades at most, quite possibly less.  Whereas generating health of individuals AND their communities does not have an end point until the sun explodes.  As soon as you take the community into the equation, then social and environmental degradation are no longer acceptable.  As in William McDonough&#039;s concept of &quot;Cradle to Cradle&quot;, health generation supports vitality in all aspects or it is not working.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An important way I&#8217;ve heard this dog distinguished is between health and healthcare.  What we&#8217;re going for is generating health, creating vitality.  It&#8217;s about more than disease because it is heavily tied in with factors like social equity that are not disease per se but do actively and heavily impact health and well-being.  </p>
<p>Regarding the comment about timescale, I think we know the existing system will self-destruct within a matter of decades at most, quite possibly less.  Whereas generating health of individuals AND their communities does not have an end point until the sun explodes.  As soon as you take the community into the equation, then social and environmental degradation are no longer acceptable.  As in William McDonough&#8217;s concept of &#8220;Cradle to Cradle&#8221;, health generation supports vitality in all aspects or it is not working.</p>
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		<title>By: robindatta</title>
		<link>http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/#comment-956</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first thing to do is to call a dog a dog. We must make a clear distinction between diseasecare and healthcare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing to do is to call a dog a dog. We must make a clear distinction between diseasecare and healthcare.</p>
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		<title>By: robindatta</title>
		<link>http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/#comment-953</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sustainable&quot; does not apply anywhere unless the timescale for the sustainability is explicitly stated. Nothing is sustainable on the timescales of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Heat Death of the Universe&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay#section_3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Decay of the Proton&lt;i&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sustainable&#8221; does not apply anywhere unless the timescale for the sustainability is explicitly stated. Nothing is sustainable on the timescales of <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe" rel="nofollow"><i>The Heat Death of the Universe</i> or </a><a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_decay#section_3" rel="nofollow"><i>The Decay of the Proton&lt;i</i></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Adams</title>
		<link>http://healthafteroil.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/sustainable-healthcare-by-kim-adams/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment.  Regarding the first line of the definition, one of the biggest problems we have with the current system is very little interaction.  Physicians and specialists tend to be in separate silos of expertise and often communicate poorly.  That greater level of interactivity is critical to the new system.

It will be part of the new system, the one I am working to build, to eliminate all those unnecessary, inappropriate and as you say, often dangerous interventions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment.  Regarding the first line of the definition, one of the biggest problems we have with the current system is very little interaction.  Physicians and specialists tend to be in separate silos of expertise and often communicate poorly.  That greater level of interactivity is critical to the new system.</p>
<p>It will be part of the new system, the one I am working to build, to eliminate all those unnecessary, inappropriate and as you say, often dangerous interventions.</p>
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